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Kelly Chapman, Executive Director of the Nevada Business Alliance and candidate for the 41st Assembly District, discusses Nevada’s reliance on California for 85-90% of its gasoline and the impact on local prices. She highlighted the governor’s efforts to diversify fuel sources in Nevada. Chapman criticized lenient judicial decisions and emphasized the need to lower Nevada’s felony theft threshold.

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Alan Stock 0:00
As I mentioned today, is Thursday, Nevada news and views Thursday. If you want great information about what’s going on, newsworthy and commentary about local, state and national issues, go to Nevada news and views.com Nevada news and views.com and join us right now in the Vegas at a kxand liveline on behalf of Nevada news and views Thursday and running for the 41st assembly district is Kelly Chapman, Executive Director of the Nevada Business Alliance. Kelly, thanks so much. Take time to join us this morning. I appreciate it.

Kelly Chapman 0:34
Good morning, Alan. Thank you for having me

Alan Stock 0:36
Absolutely. I want to talk about this article you wrote, which I think is so important, and I’ve had the governor on talking about this recently. I had him on last week, and we’re highlighting this a lot because I want people to understand that the governor is doing everything he can do to mitigate the issue of our high cost of gas and even the supply issue of gas, because we’re so dependent on California. But you wrote this great piece on this, and talked about the governor launching the fuel resiliency committee. Tell us about what’s going on right now. We’re dependent on California, and that’s why we have the problem. How does that work?

Kelly Chapman 1:22
So one of the biggest issues people don’t realize is that Nevada gets the vast majority of its gasoline from California, about 85 to 90% so when California raises costs through regulations or loses refinery capacity, we feel it almost immediately here at the pump.

Alan Stock 1:42
Yeah, and they have done that recently. They’ve they have actually voted to go ahead, or they’ve decided to go ahead and reduce how many buildings they’re going to have, and companies are going to have actually producing this gas. And one just closed in Benicia, I believe, in Northern California,

Kelly Chapman 2:07
yeah. And then also you have, like, barrels per day. So say, if they they’re allowed 200 barrels per day, that’s all they can process. So when they have that refinery capacity, you can think of it as, like, the refineries, like the kitchen, right? And crude oil is like the raw ingredients that we would use to make something, and gas and diesel would be like the finished meal. So we need this whole process in California to not have have strict regulations and make it tougher to produce that oil.

Alan Stock 2:40
So wait a minute, why would a government entity say to a restaurant, you can only have so many raw goods, so many raw materials every day in your place? That’s like saying to a shoe store, you can only sell so many shoes a day, and then you have to close the doors. I mean, that’s what is a limitation from government on what private enterprise is trying to do

Kelly Chapman 3:04
correct. And that is the the issue with California and us getting it the mass of our oils or our gas from California, because they’re they’re tough, tough regulations really affect what our prices here in Nevada.

Alan Stock 3:20
And the reason that they have done all this is because they want, they don’t want to entice, but rather force people to get out of gas powered vehicles and to go to electric vehicles. So all electric. So when the electric grid is at risk during the height of the summer, people’s cars will just wind up stopping in the middle of freeways. I mean, I mean, this is basically what’s going to wind up happening. People are not going to be able to charge their cars anyway, and that people aren’t going to have the choice. And they want to force that same idea on Nevada,

Kelly Chapman 3:58
right. Think about how that affects the power grid also.

Alan Stock 4:03
It’ll affect the power grid big time here, and I don’t really be honest with you, care about the power grid in California, but I do care about it here, and I care about the fact that if they don’t want to drive gas driven cars, I don’t care. I don’t care but, but here in Nevada, we’re a we believe in choice, and we believe that people should have the the opportunity to choose what kind of vehicle they’d like to drive. And now the governor is trying to address this issue, right?

Kelly Chapman 4:37
Right. The governor is doing everything that he can to to step away from being so reliant on just California, and I’m right there with him. I wholeheartedly agree with everything he’s doing. I agree with him that it’s a real issue, and I’m focused what we can control here.

Alan Stock 4:57
You’ve written about this, and you talk about the fact that he has a various suggestions that have popped up that he is looking at. First of all, let me just say that he sent a letter, a very staunch letter, to California Governor Gavin Newsom, who would love to be President, by the way, but he sent a letter to the governor there, in conjunction with the Arizona governor Katie Hobbs, who is a Democrat, and Lombardo is a Republican. So this is not a partisan issue between us and Arizona. We’re looking at problems we have in these two states and saying to California, get your stuff together. So we’re together with Arizona on this, but he’s come up with other ideas as well. You talked about perhaps building a pipeline from Nevada or opening a refinery in Nevada. I’m sorry, I said a pipeline from Texas. They’re opening a refinery in Nevada,

Kelly Chapman 5:52
Right, and any way we can diversify would massively help the process for us and cost for us.

Alan Stock 5:59
So we’re looking to be able to widen the and expand the pipeline that we have from Utah, and again, this is going to take a while to build a pipeline from Texas. Let’s be honest about that. But here’s the deal, someone’s got to start, and thank God we’ve got a governor now who’s willing to start the process, even though it may take years to get it going, at least he’s making the effort to start the process where no other governor in the past has done this,

Kelly Chapman 6:32
Right, It’s not about flipping a switch overnight. It’s really about making smart decisions, so we’re not stuck in the same position long term, even small changes that increase supply and competition can really help bring prices down, but doing nothing guarantees higher costs.

Alan Stock 6:49
What’s the possibility of opening a refinery here in Nevada?

Kelly Chapman 6:53
I couldn’t tell you. I haven’t really looked into that possibility yet. I think it’d be very tough. You know, we I don’t know that we have the infrastructure right now to do that, and it would take quite a while to do that, but you know what we can do right now is simple, re elect Governor Lombardo, because if he’s not in office to get this done, then, you know, none of it matters,

Alan Stock 7:15
Right, but he is the governor who is beginning the process, and he’s got folks like you behind him to start the process and not put it off for another generation or two, and that’s what we’ve got to have happen. Stay with me. I want to talk about a couple of other things too. You wrote another article about about a the murder of a mother and a toddler, and the murder getting off very light, and I know you’re running for the 41st assembly district. Want to talk about your candidacy and what people need to know. So if you stay with me, I’d appreciate it. Kelly Chapman joining us right here on Vegas at eight. She is with us on behalf of Nevada news and views Thursday, also executive director of the Nevada Business Alliance, and we’ll continue in just a moment right here on KXNT … And a, good morning. Great to be with us on this big Thursday morning. It’s Nevada news and views Thursday. And for that, we have Kelly Chapman on today, Executive Director of the Nevada Business Alliance, candidate for the 41st assembly district, and she has, of course, received the endorsement of our Nevada governor, Joe Lombardo, who I think is doing a great job. The only problem that Joe Lombardo has is he needs more people of a like mind in the State Assembly, in the state senate, to help him get his programs passed. That’s the only thing that that’s the negative, and so we’ve got to get him back in and get more people like Kelly Chapman in to be able to support the governor’s efforts, to do things like bring alternative fuel and other alternative sources for gas to the state of Nevada. Kelly, thanks so much for being with us. I do appreciate it. So you’re running for the 41st assembly district, you’ve got the governor’s endorsement when you become the next assembly person, Assembly Woman, I’m going to say you don’t mind from the first 41st, Assembly District. What are the things that you would concentrate on most when you get up to Carson City?

Kelly Chapman 9:18
One of the things that really is an issue for me, is the retail theft. I really would love to see that felony threshold be brought way back down. That’s a huge issue for me.

Alan Stock 9:31
Wow. I’m so glad to hear you say that, because we became in Nevada more liberal than California, and California is right now, I think they’re down to, I think it’s around $600 for what’s determined to be felony theft, and we’re I think it’s 700 if I’m not mistaken.

Kelly Chapman 9:54
No, here it’s 11.

Alan Stock 9:57
I thought we brought it down to seven.

Kelly Chapman 9:59
We tried to bring it down in governor’s crime bill, and it was not in the final bill.

Alan Stock 10:05
Oh, so we are way up there, so people can steal up to $1,100 worth of goods, and we could, and they could wind up getting off, basically, with a misdemeanor scott free. And you want to bring this down to what? What would you prefer to say

Kelly Chapman 10:21
I’d love to see it below 500 around 300

Alan Stock 10:25
All right, I still think that’s too high. I’ll be honest with you, but I’ll go along. No, I really do. I mean, you break into a store. I just did a story this morning on these teens in Sacramento, California that came in. There were 25 to 30 juveniles. They came into a store, at a gas station, convenience store, and they totally destroyed it. They threw things all over. They stole things. Threw things at the one manager who was on and everything like that. I mean, people think they get away with this stuff because of light sentences, and we’ve got to send a different message.

Kelly Chapman 11:06
I agree.

Alan Stock 11:08
I would hope you would get in and be able to help the governor out on that. And also, we’ve got to be looking at judges. I know you wrote another column, we’ve got a lot of time, but you wrote another column about a about a judge who let a an offender off easy after a mother and toddler were killed.

Kelly Chapman 11:27
Yeah, and it’s just about, you know, basically the system not doing its job. We have a lot of these offenders just constantly being let free. I heard, just heard the other day when I had an interview with somebody and they said they were shot up on the job site, and they were out two weeks later. And that’s a huge issue. We cannot allow these people on our streets to affect, you know, our neighborhoods.

Alan Stock 11:53
They were they were shot up, you said at the job site?

Kelly Chapman 11:57
Right, It was a construction job site, and the the person was on drugs, and they were having issues, and, yeah, they shot up the job site, and they were out two weeks later,

Alan Stock 12:08
And they were out two weeks later because, well, they were on drugs, so that would mitigate the reason that why they were they shot up in the first place. So we have to, like, this stuff is not just – as we know. What happened recently here with a judge who fought our sheriff, Kevin McMahill, about releasing a guy who had 35 arrests, and the sheriff wanted to keep him locked up, and the judge, a local judge, said, No, you’ve got to let him out. He did let him out with the prediction that he’d be arrested again soon, and within 24 hours, he was arrested on the first 36th time. And the whole country this has gone viral. The story of Kevin McMahill. He’s become a hero sheriff to the rest of the country, but the guy was back in jail within 24 hours,

Kelly Chapman 13:02
right? And thankfully, we do have McMahill, you know? What if we didn’t? that’s that’s a major issue that that’s happening. People have to also know who they’re voting for when it comes to these judges.

Alan Stock 13:14
Yeah, and remember the judges names when they come up for re election to be able to make sure that we vote them out. Writing you and other good people in is important, but voting some of the bad judges out is is equally important. I think Kelly Chapman is running for the 41st assembly district. She’s got the governor’s endorsement. I think she would be the best person to serve the 41st I agree with the governor, and I hope that if you’re in the 41st assembly district, that you will put your check next to her and vote for her for the 41st assembly district in the primary coming up this June. If people want to find out more about your campaign, how can they do it?

Kelly Chapman 13:58
They can go to Chapman4Nevada.com,

Alan Stock 14:01
that’s pretty easy. Chapman4nevada.comI encourage you to check her out and to vote for her in the primary. Kelly, good luck to you. I wish you the very, very best. Thanks so much for being with us, and a tip of that, thank you to Nevada news and views for sponsoring Nevada news and views Thursday. And of course, you can find out more about Nevada news and views by going to Nevada news and views.com more about their commentary and reporting as well. Kelly, good luck to you. We’ll talk again very soon.

Kelly Chapman 14:31
Thank you so much. Alan.